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From: [Bigman] Age: [29] Sex: [M]

Well where to start I am 29 year old man who as never slept with anyone and never been in a relationship I am just scared and confuse and for the first time saying that I fancy men a lot more then woman, I have nothing against gay people but why me wish I did not have these feelings.
I don’t have much friends to hang out with now almost all of my mates have kids got married and move on and as a result I don’t go out much or friends to talk to.
There is some one I fancy she is so nice but did not tell her how much I fancy her and as a result well I lost an opportunity and she has moved back to Australia, not sure if I should start a relation ship while im unsure about my sexuality

Hi Bigman,

It sounds to me as though you are not confused about your sexuality, and it’s actually the fear of embracing who you are that is stopping you enjoying life more. It sounds as though you are bisexual, but tend to lean more toward men, though perhaps you are completely gay but your fear of that reality makes you consider getting involved with women.

You have to listen to what your feelings are telling you. You can’t change your sexuality, and despite what society tells us, being married with kids is not ‘better’ than being in a same-sex relationship, it’s just different. It can be just as wonderful (or as awful!) as a straight relationship. It’s the people in it that make it worthwhile, not their sex.

It’s a natural part of life that friends get into relationships and drift away. But you don’t have to sit on your own every night and think about the past – you can work at making a new social life.

  • Accept who you are. You can’t change it and your life is on hold as long as you feel bad about it and do nothing.
  • Stop thinking about the past and missed opportunities. Think positively and make plans for the future. Make sure the next time someone you like is in your sights, don’t let them get away without telling them how you feel. You have nothing to lose and masses to gain.
  • Think about how you can build a social life for yourself. Join a club, group or take up and evening class. Meet guys online (and girls too if you really want to and not just because you think you should). www.outintheuk.com is a good place to start.
  • Just because friends have married and had children doesn’t mean they aren’t interested in maintaining a friendship with you. They’re just busy and naturally have new priorities. Make some phone calls, arrange some visits.

A big dose of positive thinking and motivation is what you need, and you can make your life a rich and rewarding experience.

From: [Matthew] Age: [14] Sex: [M]

Hello.

I recently completely fell in love with this younger boy from school. Hes 13 and im 14, very nearly 15. Hes currently with this other girl of my age but whenever we are together we always passionately kiss and he is eager to go further with me.
He claims to be bisexual, but I do not know if i am gay etc, all i do know is I love him.

He considers me to be his 'boyfriend' and we are more or less never out of contact with each other.
Recently, he started to get very close to me, and started to undo my belt. I stopped him. I don't know why but I told him that he was too young.

Hes not started puberty yet and Im worried that he'll be surprised by what he would find if he went lower.

Do you think the age difference is too much for us at this age?
Do you think that its okay that he is together with two people at once?
Do you have any advice for me?

Thanks very much,
Matty

Hi Matthew,

There’s no rule against you having a boyfriend, and kissing passionately, but it is against the law (UK) for people under 16 to have sex (homo or heterosexual). If this guy you’re seeing hasn’t been through puberty yet, then that’s an added reminder that he is a child and that entering into a sexual relationship with him is off-limits. He may be keen to start having sex, but his body is saying, “Not ready yet, come back in a few years”, as is the law. The fact that he’s seeing you and a girl at the same time suggests to me he’s in a rush and wants a piece of everything at once. He need time to grow up.

I know that a lot of people do have sex before they reach 16, and that some people mature earlier and feel they are ready for sex. The law can’t even begin to regulate it or control what people get up to behind closed doors. Still, you have shown that you are a mature and considerate guy, and haven’t just thought about your own needs and jumped into bed with your boyfriend, and I applaud that.

Carry on seeing him if it’s what you want, but I suggest continuing to hold back. If you are meant to be together, he’ll wait for sex do the right thing by his girlfriend.

From: [DR] Age: [20] Sex: [M]

Hi Jason, my name is DR Nordlie and I've run into a bit of a problem in my sexual orientation. You see, i was in a relationship with a girl back in May (i still am a virgin) but broke up with her at the end of the month and have since then lost my taste for women. i still would like to have sex with women but would like to experience gay sex as well. i am feeling a bit uneasy with these feelings but looking back on an event i had with a male in high school (5 minutes of frottage) i did enjoy myself quite alot, and am wondering what i should do. i live in Sioux Falls South Dakota and know of a gay bar in the area and am thinking about going there to hang out and see what the people are like. do you have any advice for me, if you do it is greatly appreciated.

Hi DR,

It sounds like you already have the answers you are looking for. You like both men and women sexually and want to explore the gay part of yourself. There is a gay bar in the area, which could give you opportunities to meet gay and bisexual men for friendship, sex or more. So what are you waiting for?

It’s normal to feel uneasy about the gay side of yourself, because generally speaking we’re not raised to think that homosexuality is a valid way to be, and often the possibility of being gay isn’t entertained in the family home. But you are 20, and you know yourself well enough and know what turns you on, and it’s up to you to explore that.

If it was a push out the door you needed, then consider yourself pushed!

From: [Jamie] Age: [15] Sex: [M]

Hiya,
I'm very confused at the moment. I knew I was interested in guys when I was about 9 so quite early. However i've had loving heterosexual relationships since I was 12. I get so confused about what I like and what to do with my relationships now. It's harder I feel to explore my sexuality as I go to a boys school (with the girls school just across the road) where it's very macho: all buff straight guys and although I have lots of good friends, I don't feel I have anyone close enough to me to discuss these feelings. I could not talk to my parents about these feelings (I never really talk to my parents about my social life) even though I feel confident that they would understand.

What gets me the most is I Really want a loving future straight relationship with a family, yet I feel more aroused with certain guys despite the fact I could not envisage a long term homosexual relationship.

I'm a bit camp myself, my parents have even asked if I was gay, but I just don't feel they understand my confusion and i'm not confident about talking to them. Unfortunately there is a straight guy I really like in my year, but I find many of my friends at the girls school nice too. It's as if I'm more turned on by guys but could only have a true loving relationship with another girl.

I don't really feel comfortable with thinking of myself as bi because i would much rather be gay or straight so I could feel more passionate for one sex and in return have a great relationship.

Also , there are only two open gays I know in our school of about 700, so there isn't anyone I know who would understand.

Hope you can give mr some advice, and as I said, one of the things I long for is a family and a really nice girl. Perhaps it's because the schools are separated I feel more confused.

jamie :)

Hi Jamie,

Why do you think that you could only have a deep romantic, emotional connection with a woman and not a man? If you’re surrounded by straight, matcho-acting guys at school then perhaps you have come to believe that all guys are like that, and hard to get close to. This isn’t the case. Two men can share the same connection as a straight couple can, and I speak from experience.

I think you’re a little afraid to admit that you are gay, or at least that you prefer men. Do you really believe that if you were in a mixed school you’d feel a lot ‘straighter’ and have relationships with girls? Or do you think perhaps that no matter how many girls are around, you’ll have your eye on that guy you have feelings for?

At the very least I can tell you that you aren’t straight. You are sexually attracted to guys. A straight guy doesn’t fancy other guys, even if there are no women around. Gay or bisexual guys do. Simple.

I think that, like a lot of emails I’ve replied to in the last few days, you are creating obstacles and problems that can be brushed aside.

The obstacles that are blocking you from feeling better are:

  • You worry that you can’t have the level of emotional connection with a guy that you can with girls. I say you can. You can have both the sex and the emotional connection with the right person.
  • You think that being separated from females is somehow bringing out the gay in you and that being around girls would balance you out. I say this isn’t correct. You could put me in a room with 100 naked women for 6 months and I’d be as gay when I walked out as when I walked in. Sexuality doesn’t change based on who’s around you during term time.
  • You feel that happiness in the future is very much about having a ‘normal’ family; being married to a woman and having children. I say you can be very happy and have a wonderful relationship with a man, and that a different family type is just as valid.

Try to see through these obstacles and concentrate on how you truly feel and what your heart tells you.

From: [Taylah] Age: [14] Sex: [F]

I've known my gf for over a year now. but only over the internet. yet were engaged. shes 16 and i know everyone may be all like shes a paedophile, but shes not, i know that from webcam, and speaking over the phone etc. i'm utterly in love with her and she’s planning to come down from Somerset to Manchester to meet up with me, but her mum won't let her unless my mum knows, me and my mum are in a massive argument atm, so i'm staying with my sister for a bit, i want to come out but, not about the engagement cause everyone would overreact, but if not i'm scared her mum will tell my mum or my sister if we get to meet. what should i do?

Hi Taylah,

I know it’s probably not what you want to hear, but try to see things from the perspective of those who care about you; your family and friends. They love you and want you to be safe and happy. I’d be worried if a parent wasn’t concerned if their 14 year old daughter announced being in love with someone they haven’t met in the flesh, and had even planned to become engaged. Do you not think, deep down, that it would be better to see each other at least a few times before making such big plans for the future?

It sounds like your girlfriend’s Mum is very sensible in that she won’t pack her daughter off for Manchester without knowing she has somewhere to stay and that the person she’s going to visit has a family that are fully aware of the situation. It all sounds very responsible to me. After all, webcam or not, you can never be 100 percent sure when meeting someone for the first time, and is potentially dangerous.

So my advice is to put the brakes on. Why the rush to get rings on each other’s fingers before your first date? Slow down. Continue to get to know each other. Think about coming out and being honest with those closest to you before your girlfriend comes to visit. It’s not fair for her to travel so far and then have to sneak around. Be sensible and think things through before making big jumps that can change your life.

From: [Lee] Age: [17] Sex: [M]

hi Jason
i was in an internet relationship just before christmas, which was my first relationship of any kind, so i took it pretty seriously. we soon realised however that it wasn't working. he got over it pretty quickly, i took a little longer. we kept in touch for a while. i've recently learned that he has a new boyfriend, and for some reason this has made me feel very insecure. i've not even liked anyone else since we split, but i've started feeling like i really need someone, and getting a little upset about it, which is causing me problems at school and at work with concentration. i have trouble sleeping from time to time anyway but typically it would have to be now.

then there's my best friend. we've always been really close, and i guess you could say he's the closest to a proper boyfriend i've ever had. he is of course straight. i wouldn't say i'm attracted to him as such, but i'm finding it difficult feeling so lonely while having this great yet off-limits guy telling me everythings going to be ok. i know only 2 other gay guys, both of which i cannot stand, no matter how hard i try, so my prospects of finding someone seem pretty slim. people tell me i'll find someone at uni in a year or so, but right now i'm finding that hard to believe.

thanks

Hi Lee,

The people who tell you about finding someone at uni are right. At the moment your world is quite small. This isn’t a bad thing as such, but when you live with family and your life is school and a part time job, it can be limiting, especially as a gay person wanting to meet others. We all start off like this, as young people, before ‘flying the nest’. Universities often have gay groups or societies and various other clubs to get involved in and where you can meet people who share your interests. You also find that people are a bit more grown up at university and more open minded. Being away from home means you can explore aspects of your personality that you’d perhaps hidden away while living with your folks.

Just because you met someone online and perhaps never met up in ‘real life’ doesn’t make the feelings you had for him any less real to you, and it’s normal to hurt over the relationship ending. It’s also completely normal to feel shaken once you find someone has moved on quicker than you and found someone else. So you’ve acknowledged that you don’t feel too great, but it’s time to move on. Your life is about to get a lot more interesting with uni. With time you will stop hurting about the internet relationship, and you have every chance of meeting someone wonderful at university and beyond. Much better to wait for the right guy than think about guys you can’t stand, or feel frustrated by being close to a straight guy.

I think a little patience and simply enjoying the friendships you have for what they are will see you through until life provides you with more options. Remember, you have as much chance as anyone else for happiness and love.

From: [Mark] Age: [16] Sex: [M]

Hey Jason!

A few months ago my parents found some conversations on my computer that they asked me about, and in the end I ended up coming out to them. I had planned to wait until I went to college, and I feel like I'm dealing with problems I wasn't ready to deal with yet. But now that I'm out, I want my parents to try and work towards embracing it. We've been going to counselling and visiting a psychologist, but they don't seem to be making any effort at all. We never talk about my sexuality at home, and if its brought up, the tone is always angry. My parents want a roadmap of how to accept it, and the best answer I could give them was "I figured it out on my own, so I can't really tell you how to do it.". This only makes them angrier, and all I want is acceptance or approval of some kind. I have few close friends that know, and my family is clamping down on me, e.g. not letting me leave the house for no reason, and being more quick to judge. I really don't know what to do, because a lo t of the time, when I need someone to talk to, there's no one there, because the things I want to tell people, my parents don't want to hear. Any suggestions?

~Mark

Hi Mark,

It worries me that you’ve been visiting a psychologist – is this at your parents request because you are gay? If it’s for other reasons, fine, but seeing someone trained in mental illness because you are gay isn’t right. You aren’t mentally ill, you are gay.

Counselling, on the other hand, can be very useful in dealing with many problems and worries, and certainly isn’t just for people with diagnosed mental health problems. I think it says something very good about your parents that they’d arrange this and attend with you, presumably in order to improve the family communication. Still, you say they don’t make any effort, so this sends mixed messages about how they feel and how ready they are to accept their gay son.

You are right, Mark, when you say about figuring it out on your own. Most gay people do. But there is information and support out there. I would suggest you and your parents read my Advice for parents and friends section. Also have a look at links, Support for parents of gay people.

I think the best immediate action is to take a step back, don’t force the issue, and give your parents time to think about things. Sometimes pushing the issue can just cause angry reactions and won’t help them warm to the idea. You may find that your parents chill out with time, and when you meet someone and perhaps even want to live with a man, then the issue can be bought up again.

Ultimately, you are gay and can’t change. If your parents want to have a good relationship with you and be part of your life then they have to accept this, and learn to see past it if they can’t embrace it. Otherwise, they’ll really miss out. After all, being gay is only one part of what makes you the person that you are, and it’s not something they should be pinning so much importance on.

Do you have any friends you can talk to? You’ve already done what is often considered the hardest part of coming out, so why not open up to a friend? It will help a lot having someone on your side who is outside of the family home.

From: [Glitter] Age: [15] Sex: [F]

ok here goes....i will be 15 in a month...
my mum has always said if i was gay that would be ok...and from a young age i felt different, but never really new why...now ive had a few boyfriend, and many sexual partner *kissing and stuff*...but only one of the guys ever did it for me and all the females did...after falling in love with my bet friend and getting used and then rejected...i came out as bi when i was 13-14...but for the past maybe...4 months i haven’t felt anything for guys...and alot for girl...im pretty sure im a lesbian my my mind keeps trying to make me think otherwise...i keep telling myself nah you couldn’t be and its blocking my true feelings from coming out....
plus people say you can discover ur gay and come out....then a few yrs later discover your straight...so how could i ever come out and risk that happening and looking like a stupid kid who went through a phase....?
i know people say give it time and you will just feel it...
but how do you know for sure....and that it wont change later on...?
plz help....

Hi Glitter,

It’s true that some people have same-sex experiences when they are very young, but go on to be straight later in life. It works the other way though, and you may well go on to be lesbian after enjoying an experience with a male or both male and females. Sexuality is much more fixed as you become an adult, and generally people become more sure of themselves and what they want. I have never heard of a gay person come out and discover that they are actually 100% heterosexual some years later. I expect the truth of the matter is that a lot of people are very confused about their sexuality, are desperate to put a definitive label on it, and put all kinds of obstacles and worries between themselves and their feelings, preventing them from seeing things – if you’ll forgive the word – straight.

You know you like girls, and you know that as time has gone by these same-sex attractions have increased, and your interest in males has decreased. So you have the answers right in front of you and only need me to point it out. I doubt very, very much that you’ll suddenly get the hots for the local football team and run off to boys town, shunning woman forever! It might be the case that you find some men attractive through your life, but I think if you are bisexual, it’s only a relatively small part of you that leans toward men, to the extent that you feel you may be completely lesbian. However small a facets of your sexuality is though, don't ignore it, but also don't feel pressure to jump on it. Rather, see how you feel as you meet new people and become romantically and/or sexually interested. It sounds cheesy, but just follow your heart.

If your sexuality changes, it’ll be in subtle ways, as it develops – people don’t suddenly wake up with different sexualities, so stop worrying. Listen to what your feelings are telling you and enjoy life. It’s when we feel bad about and deny what we’re feeling that we become unhappy.

From: [Rose] Age: [17] Sex: [F]

Dear Jason,

Besides being a member of the BGIOK forum I am also a member of a lot of other forums. One of the other forums I met a girl and after chatting for a while we swapped MSN addies.
After two weeks of talking we swapped numbers and started texting each other as well and then she rang me and we talked. Now, at the moment we are kinda going out with each other as well.
So far it sounds good, however, I'm all the way in Cardiff and she is all the way over in Essex. I'm not out to my parents and she isn't out either. I was just wondering what how we could try and see each other while also trying to keep out a relationship a secret.

Hi Rose,

The major problem your budding relationship faces isn’t sexuality – it’s the geographical distance between you and the girl you like. And there’s no easy answer to that. I’m sure your parents would worry if you went off to Essex to meet someone you haven’t met before, and I’d be worried if they weren’t. The distance is such that doing a day trip isn’t practical, so you’d have to stay over, which understandably raises more alarm bells for the people who care about you.

I think unless one of you were to live closer, there’s a tricky future for any relationship. Also, having only known this girl for a few weeks it’s madness to start making plans with your future based around being close to her i.e. picking a college in Essex rather than a college that’s best for you, or moving to Essex without a job to go to.

But it’s not all doom and gloom. If there’s a future for the two of you, you’ll be able to work something out. See how things go with this girl. Email and talk on the phone often. Get to know her as much as possible. If you really connect with each other, then think about planning a visit somewhere in the middle between Cardiff and Essex, like Reading (Berkshire). I have travelled from Reading to Cardiff myself, and it’s only 2 hours, and would be similar from Essex to Reading. It’s a big town with lots to do, and a decent place for a first date. You could also go home on the same day and not worry about sleeping over anywhere. This way you both travel equal distance, give or take, share the expense and reduce travel time. Also worth remembering that you’re nearly 18: an adult. So you’d expect more freedom to make your own decisions and make bigger trips like that.

If it’s meant to be, you’ll find a way, but don’t rush into anything.

From: [Martyn] Age: [25] Sex: [M]

Well i have always known i was gay i guess from a very young age, but over the last 10 months since i have been out, i have gone thougth a complete change, my image the way i act and my friends, as my old ones would never have understood.
I was in a strait relationship with a girl for 4 years and it ended by her cheating on me, i guess i have never really been able to trust anyone again. I was just in a relationship with a very closed feeling person and he had been hurt in the past...everything was fine for a month then this other part of me took over, this evil part, made my mind think of all sorts of awful things and i acussed this poor guy who i ending up hurting when i really fell for him...he was on i dating wepsite and i made a fake profile to trick him into purposely hurting me, why?...i cant explain...but i got a reponse from hes profile, so my messed up head went into overdrive and i said some really awful things to someone, who from the beginning was just grauding there feelings to protect them self, it turns out he shared this site with a close friend of hes and he himself has not been on this site for a while...so you can only imagine how i have made him feel...i feel messed up in the head, my sis says alot has happened to me and i need to belone to find ME, but i dont know how, im 25 and going on like a teenager!...but i cant help feeling i need him. Im not sure this is the right site for me i just typed it in google and it appered, i really need some guidence, i cant let this happen again...Martyn

Hi Martyn,

Stop playing games with yourself and other people. It’s really okay to just say how you’re feeling and be up front with others. A relationship is doomed from the beginning if you think he’ll cheat on you. Going to the trouble of making a fake dating profile and setting a trap for your man is not a healthy way to behave, and the damage you do will hurt you more than anyone else.

If you are with someone who gives you reason to think they sleep around, then walk away. If you have no reason to think these things, then learn how to deal with insecurity and jealousy. Challenge that annoying voice in your head that tells you he’s cheating when there’s no real reason to think that. Separate the nonsense from the reality. I suggest reading my Looking after your mental health section for advice on thinking in a more positive way and getting out of negative thought patterns that can hinder both friendships and relationships and make you miserable. Also check out my tips and advice for successful relationships.

I think your sister is right: some time as a single man is a good idea. Take control and use this time to challenge the way your mind works, the thinking patterns and negative cycles you have fallen into. Only then will you be in a good position to enter into a relationship and really give it the chance it deserves. Otherwise I fear you’ll prevent even the nicest guy from truly getting really close to you and allowing you to trust him. Drama and games don’t make a good, lasting relationship so it’s time for a real change.

From: [Tamsyn] Age: [15] Sex: [F]

Hello again Jason

I know that I need to get over this girl that I really like. Recently I've felt that I'm not as obsessed with her as I have been, and I don't really think about her as much as I used to. I would really like to know if you could help me by telling me if there is any way to tell whether you are over someone or not.

I am grateful for any advise you can give me.

Hi Tamsyn,

Simply, you know you are over someone when thinking about them no longer hurts.

Often when you have had a deep connection with someone and once been very in love with them, that person may always make you feel differently than when bumping into a friend for example, but the pain you feel when you break up doesn’t last.

Getting over the loss of a relationship and the closeness you shared with someone takes different people different amounts of time, depends on how sensitive they are, and on how a person handles the time right after. Sitting around obsessing about someone and avoiding other parts of life makes getting over someone very difficult, while spending time with friends and making positive plans will help you move on much more quickly.

It sounds to me as though the intensity of your feelings has lessoned and you are starting to move on. Be active and think positively and you’ll feel better as time goes by. Getting over someone is a natural mourning process that everyone goes through when a break-up occurs.

From: [Mike] Age: [19] Sex: [M]

Hi, I don't have much of a social life and i want to get out on the Gay Scene only problem is i'm a bit of a loner and don't see any of my skool m8s anymore as i fell out with them b4 i left skool at xmas 06 as they weren't really m8s worth havin (but thats another story) the last 2 years i've been in a job full of middle aged woman so was never goin to get any m8s there! Now i'm unemployed and still lookin for a social life and wanting to get on the gay scene. So i joined a gay youth club last saturday only problem is the ppl i've met there r like 15/16 and not on the same level as me socially! i'm a lot more grown up and i have different interests (the only common bond we have is we’re gay and i want to go 2 the same clubs/bars as them! I want ppl my own age who also go to these clubs/bars! So at the moment i'm torn between going back to this youth club just couse i wanna go to the same clubs/bars as them and i wanna go 2 manchester pride like them, but at the same time there nice ppl but i don't feel i'll ever be m8s with them as i'm older and i'd be just using them! and then if i'm wrong and in the next weeks and months and i do become m8s with them theres the awkarness of it all and ppl seeing me hanging around with ppl like 15/16 when i'm 19 its just werid! at my age know1 hangs out with 15/16 years its just wrong! i only wanted to go 2 this gay youth group to get gay m8s and go 2 these bars and clubs as i don't really wanna walk in by myself! i don't no what i'd do if i never go back to this youth group as i'd be back at square 1 so at the end of the day i'd be just using these ppl to go to the gay clubs/bars/events i wanna go 2 as i'm a loner with no supportive m8s of my own! i thought this youth group might of been a step forward last week it still could be as i'm sure if i go back i'd go to the gay clubs/bars etc with them but at the same time i'm just using them and i'll be always looking for new m8s once i'm at these clubs/bars and i know i'll dump these youth group m8s once i'm where i want to be in life and its no fair on anyone, so couse i just a loner i'm using ppl1 i don't know what to do?!

Hi Mike,

I think you’re getting frustrated because things aren’t happening as quickly as you’d like. It would be ideal if you could walk into any club, bar, group etc. and find an instant and perfect fit for what you’re looking for, and even better, that the people you latch onto want to spend time with you too. But life isn’t like that, and there are no guarantees that you’ll like any particular person and that they’ll like you. Going to a gay group only garantees one thing: that most of the people there are gay. The rest is down to luck and the effort you put in.

You sound as though you think you’ll be arrested as a paedophile for hanging out with people 3 years younger than you! and you also seem to dismiss them very quickly as potential friends. Think about it differently: if you met one of these guys when he was 30 and you were 33, would you dismiss the possibility of friendship? You say they are nice people, so give them a chance.

It’s not using someone if part of why you have befriended him or her is because you hope it will open up other social opportunities for you and introduce you to other potential friends. That’s the way life works. I’ve met people through other people before and as time goes by find that the original friend and myself haven’t been in touch for years! Some friendships come and go, while some are for keeps. You don’t know what people fall into what type of friendship until you’re in it and just seeing how things go. I went to a gay youth group when I was 19 and enjoyed years of friendship with people several years younger than me.

You might also try meeting guys your age online, using a site like www.outintheuk.com

I think you did a really brave thing by going to that group, and I know first hand what it’s like to attend a gay youth group on your own. Don’t lose this positive thing you’ve started. Be open minded, be patient and give people a chance. I think you’re at the beginning of a potential explosion in your social life, but Rome wasn’t built in a day.

From: [Alberto] Age: [17] Sex: [M]

Okay I am 17 and I have this enormous crush on this friend of mine. when we were like 12 to 15 we used to do all kinda of gay stuff.. like hand jobs, we had showers together. etc and sometimes he was the one that came up with new ideas. later on we got into a fight and stopped talking like for a year... we became friends again and I still have feelings for him.. I hate the fact that he acts differently with me know, he won't engage in physical contact with me (such as hugs, or acting foolish) but he will with others. he has a girlfriend but everytime he talks to me he does it in a different way he tries to talk all manly in front of me but I know he can't hide the past.. and every now and then when I act kinda gay he stares at me and puts on a face that says (you are so gay but in a kinda fake way) I seriously do not know what to do.. Do you think I should talk to him about this and therefore end all the issues? please help me out thanks!

Hi Alberto,

I think telling your friend that you feel he acts artificially around you is something you might want to do. But I also think you have to accept that he is a heterosexual man and has a girlfriend now. Whether he still has feelings for men isn’t the issue here, and it’s not your job to try to liberate him. Same-sex experiences in the past don’t mean he isn’t straight now, and he certainly isn’t the first straight man to have had sexual contact with other boys when young. You really can’t know what’s going on in his head, and I expect you’re spending far too much time and energy trying to do just that.

He is embarrassed about the past and doesn’t want to send out confusing signals to you that might suggest he is interested sexually. To you it might seem that he is being cold physically, but for him it just feels right not to be affectionate with a man he used to have sex with and to keep a certain distance from someone that reminds him of his past.

Whether this kind of friendship is good enough for you or not is your decision, but I think perhaps the two of you will never share the type of closeness you desire. If the friendship is strong and worthwhile, then he’ll be open to a conversation about how you are feeling, and perhaps you can come to an understanding and move forward. But you might have to accept things the way they are and find the closeness you want in other friends or a partner in the future.

From: [Kit] Age: [17] Sex: [M]

Ok, I apologise in advance for the essay length but I have a lot to get off my chest. Here goes.
I am a 17 year old sixth form student and I have known that I am gay since around year 8. It wouldnâ t surprise me if a lot of people assumed I was gay â Iâ ll be honest that given my campness, â unmanlyâ interests and that my friends are almost all girls I doubt you would have to be a real detective. However, I have only properly come out to my friend Kirsty(more on that later) but I kind of assume others know â in my English class I talked about Jude Law looking hot in the current production of Hamlet for crying out loud!! Apart from the usual immature boys I havenâ t received much subjected to much homophobia and I donâ t have to see them as I donâ t do PE anymore (score!) I am pretty sure my twin brother knows â he always hints at it in different situations and it wouldnâ t surprise me if my mum knew but i am not sure. I suspect she and my twin have talked about it. Anyway, I think that all my family would accept it - even be happy with it â but i donâ t know how to tell them. That is problem number 1. I have wondered about doing it when we are all sitting around for dinner or doing it individually. But then I donâ t know whether to do it face-to-face, send a text or write a letter. I have thought about slipping it in whilst we walk the dog or putting a note in my mumâ s car on her way to work, but I just always chicken out. I am in myself alright with being gay â mine is quite a liberal household- and to be frank Iâ ve had rather a lot of time to mull it over Now, all this I would be able to deal with if I didnâ t have my other, bigger problem. Since Easter, I have developed a deep infatuation with my Art teacher. He is around 40, is married and has children. I know nothing could ever happen as he is straight, much older than me and a teacher, but I cannot help myself. I have had crushâ on teachers before but only in a physical way; this is different, I feel like I could devote my life to him and I feel stupid and wrong because of it. I also think it must sound stupid as everyone has crushes on teachers but I cannot live without seeing him. I live for Thursdays + Fridays when I have his lessons, and this has all really brought a change in me. I have had a loss in appetite, am not sleeping well and am always on the verge of tears. I have broken down on my mum several times but just told her that it is down to being a teenager. I even went through a rough patch where I considered drowning myself. I donâ t feel like that now but my
moods keep on swinging, and I am scared I will go back to feeling like that again. I have been nearly sick before some of his lessons just because I know I am about to see him and I can find myself tongue-tied in his presence. I am going to do art at uni, and I know he sees me as a great student â I am rather eager to please â but that is all he sees me as and all he ever will. I get the inkling that he, and my other teachers in fact, know I am gay but as I say you donâ t need to be a detective. I feel torn as I kind of do want him to know but I know that is just desperation and fantasy and that it wouldnâ t help anyone. I am also scared that he would guess anyway â I donâ t know what the look in my eyes must be when I look at him but all i can think is â i love youâ . Also, my current project is rather homoerotic â a self portrait as St. Sebastian.
The only person I have told this is my friend Kirsty. This was because in English our topic is love through the ages and we had to do a pie chart of the love we have with different types of love. I put some unrequited love in mine and she asked me what it was all about. She kept on asking and as we were walking home I kind of broke down and told her that I was gay and in love with a teacher. She was fine with it and very supportive and that was encouraging but I didnâ t really plan to tell her and mainly did so because I felt so worked up about it all. I donâ t know if I am ready to tell anyone else about my love for my teacher as I canâ t do so without coming out. I also donâ t want to continually talk to Kirsty about it as it would be unfair on her. I would tell my best friend but she is in my art class and I am scared the atmosphere would become uncomfortable and despite how great a friend she is, she can get uncomfortable when talking about certain issues. I would tell my
family but they will still see my teacher at parents evening and open evenings and I am scared they would think something was actually going on between us or that it was his fault and complain. I know I could just come out to my parents but that wouldnâ t help with my real problem.
I have another year of school left and I feel trapped and depressed. Iam at a loss as to what to do. Any suggestions???? x

Hi Kit,

It sounds like you have a lot going for you: friends you can come out to and who offer support, and an open, liberal-minded household where people are dropping hints to make coming out easier for you. The only thing stopping you coming out is the absence of courage needed to just do it. I personally think you should take a deep breath and tell your family.

When it comes to this teacher you have feelings for, I think you have the answers already. You know he’s married and a lot older than you. And even if he was gay and in his twenties, teacher-pupil relationships are strictly off the syllabus. Indeed, a teacher’s job would be at risk if it was found out that he or she was having a relationship with a pupil, and with something like that on their record their whole career would be compromised. I think telling everyone how you feel about this teacher and created an issue of it to others is a mistake, and indeed, if the news travelled in certain directions his conduct could be put under the spotlight. If your parents were to react to your coming out in a negative way – though it doesn’t sound like they will - the connection to your teacher could land him in trouble.

I had an email from a girl a while back who had a major crush on one of her teachers. She had told people about her feelings and the news had got back to the teacher herself. They were both then dragged into various meetings and the girl had to switch class and was told not to speak to the teacher again, even in the corridor between classes. Obviously it made life harder and uncomfortable for both of them and caused upset that could have easily been avoided.

Acknowledge your feelings for this man, talk to one or two trusted people about it if you need to, but work on moving on. Be level-headed and sensible about it. You enjoy the classes and you like spending time with this man, and there’s no reason you can’t carry on doing just that, but with it in your mind at all times that you are a pupil, and that he’s there to teach you.

I know your feelings are strong and you want recognition, but absolutely nothing worthwhile can come out of him knowing how you feel. Indeed, you might find yourself in a different class and the teacher avoiding you like the plague for fear of people thinking he’s led you on in some way.

You will get over it and you will find someone who’s not only available, but wants you as much as you want him. Draw strength from the wonderful people around you.

From: [Barry] Age: [24] Sex: [M]

Hey,

I am so confused at what to do. When i was back at school when i was about 18 i came out to my close friends, they were all ok. However i was still too scared to be myself. I then joined an organisation as a volounter and it was extremely frowned upon to be Bi or gay so i had to pretend i wasnt. every one though it was a phase i went through so it was all left behind. I have been hiding my true feelings for years now and its depressing me now. My closest friend is so supportive and says everyone will come around. If my friends truly are my friends then it doesnt matter. However the organistaion i am with it is now my full time job and they have changed their policy on being gay, but my friends there have not changed their opinion. I am scared to loose friends and i am looking to leave my dream job just so i can be out. Im scared and just dont know what to do. I want to lift this load but it means changing my job ad most likely loosing my friends. i am prefer guys bu t i am BI so should i just hide these feelings and get a girl and keep going as i have for all these years in an attempt to keep friends and a job?

Hi Barry,

It’s not at all right to date someone simply because you think your friends will approve. If you get involved with someone romantically, it must be for the right reasons: you think he or she is wonderful and you want to be with them.

The hardest thing in life is to find the courage to be who you really are and to allow the people around you to love or hate you, based on what they see.

It sounds like you have one supportive friend, and she seems to think other friends will come around. Perhaps she’s right?

At the moment you are at a crossroads and you have only two options: you come out and deal with the aftermath, or you stay in the closet and try to keep your romantic/sexual life separate from these work friends. I know some very private people at my workplace who keep their private lives very much out of the office, and I haven’t a clue whether they are straight or gay or anything else. It doesn’t mean we can’t be friends and enjoy working together. You have every right to your privacy, even if at times juggling a private life with work colleagues might be tricky.

Also, remember there are laws to protect people in the workplace from bullying and discrimination. Your sexuality is not a reason for colleagues to make you unhappy or unable to perform your role properly (see my page here for more).

It’s easier to handle this whole situation as a single man, but if you get a boyfriend then these issues will be pushed to the fore. It’s not fair to expect a partner to sneak around, hiding away from and deceiving your friends. If you were to live with a same-sex partner, hiding your sexuality becomes even tougher.

It’s up to you to decide how to live your life, but I know that being true to yourself is the best way to be happy and to allow your real friends to shine through.

From: [Ben] Age: [25] Sex: [M]

My Name is Ben and I am 25 years of age and from the Small Town of Barry in South Wales. I've been very confused about My Sexuality since I was about 16, and have struggled ever since! Can you help?

I didn't date anybody Man or Woman until 2007, when I was 23, as I wasn't sure what I wanted! My Relationship with My Girlfriend in 2007, only lasted 3 months! I feel that My paranoia and insecurity over My Sexuality contributed to the collapse of My Relationship.

I have always been attracted to Men, whether it be looking at pictures of Naked Men on the Internet or looking at Guys in the car when I go past. Is this normal or am I weird?

I get my hair cut by this Guy named Mike, and he's 20 and very sexy! I find him very attractive. Should I tell him? I'm not sure whether he is gay or not! Should this make a difference as to whether I tell him about my feelings?

I can't believe at 25, I'm still a Virgin! The only Sexual Contact that I have had is, that I was given a blow job by My Ex-Girlfriend and by a Man at my 21st Birthday some 4 years ago. I must admit that I dream about having sex with a Man, and find that masturbating to the thought of a Man arousing.

Thank you for your time

Ben

Hi Ben,

There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin at 25. Some people have sex far too young. They don’t enjoy it, and regret it. Some wait for the right person to come into their lives. Some just feel confused about their sexuality and need a bit longer for that side of their lives to begin.

It sounds to me as though you know that you find men sexually attractive, and that you’d like to explore this further. You could try visiting a gay pub or bar with a friend. This will help you build your confidence and feel more at ease with the idea of being gay. You could try forming friendships (and maybe more) with men on a website like www.outintheuk.com and do some research into what’s available in your area, or perhaps Cardiff (gay groups and social events etc.).

You say you like the guy that cuts your hair but you don’t know if he’s gay. Try dropping hints the next time you see him. Ask him what he did at the weekend, what places he hangs out etc. If he spends most of his time at the roughest pub in town getting into fights, then you know you’re barking up the wrong tree! On the other hand, if he perhaps mentions a favourite gay bar, then you have a pretty good clue! Of course, a lot of gay people don’t go to gay venues, so you might have to dig a little deeper to find out what you want. Still, if there’s a connection between you both, then a bit of gentle flirting will help move things along.

I think you need to be a bit bolder, Ben. Reach out a bit further than you have been and spice up your life a little.

From: [Paul] Age: [16] Sex: [M]

Hi

Firstly, really good website you've got here - I've pointed a few people in it's direction and they've all found it helpful, me included.

Now, I've had everything fairly easy so far - I knew from about 12 that I was gay, came out properly to friends at about 13 and, after preparing myself for a hell of an argument, found that they were completely indifferent. Even happy for me to know that I'd been honest with them, and that I could now get on with my life. My parents still don't know, but I don't anticipate me ever telling them either, so that's irrelevant!

Anyway, what I wanted to ask was, what can I do to help other people who haven't had such an easy time of gay youth as I have? I do a fair amount of voluntary/charity work anyway, but I'd really like to get involved with (or start) some description of help organisation where I live (York). It's not fair that some people don't have it easy, and do experience bullying, lack of acceptance, religion, parents, friends, etc, and I'd like to help but don't know where to start. If you've got any idea of any organisations already who would like an extra pair of volunteering hands, or any info on things I could do to start something myself and how to go about it, I'd be really grateful.

Thanks

Paul

Hi Paul,

I think that it’s wonderful that you want to help people less fortunate than yourself, and there’s certainly a lot young gay people who need help, advice and support.

Your best bet is to do some research. Firstly, think about how far you can travel. If you can only go maybe 10 miles from home due to money issues etc., then you have a big chunk of local area to start investigating. See if there are any gay youth groups in that area, or organisations/charities. I found this - http://www.lgbyouthyork.org.uk/ - after a few seconds of searching on Google with, ‘gay youth group, york’. ‘Young volunteers’ also bought up a range of websites. Try some of search terms and see what you can find.

You may well find that even if an organisation doesn’t need help at the moment, they may be able to direct you to someone else who does and give you advice on getting involved in various projects they know of.

If you are going to college or university, they will very likely have a gay group or society and will welcome help with its organisation and fund raising, as well as new ideas and input you can provide.

If nothing comes up, broaden your search to perhaps include other types of organisations and charities (i.e. support for young people generally, not just those with sexuality concerns).

There are definitely outlets for your enthusiasm Paul. Don’t be downhearted if you don’t find something straight away.

From: [Nicholas] Age: [23] Sex: [M]

Hello Simon... (who's Simon! - bgiok)

Firstly, thank God i found this site to help me with my problem as to be honest, im tired and upset about my current situation.

Ill explain from the being...

My name is Nicholas. Im 23 years old and live in London with my mother and farther and baby brother Jack. I am a genuinely nice person with a massive circle of friends who all know about my sexuality. They are all so supportive as well as my family which is touching. I really am blessed with my friends and family. In my circle of friends i am the only gay man which is not a problem for me but i am finding it difficult to have a relationship as i actually don't know any gay men but still i don't think this is a problem as there always up for coming out gay clubbing with me. To be honest though, im not obsessed with gay clubs and really enjoy my life the way it is.

So my problem...About 4 years ago, i met a boy called Oliver through another friend. Oliver soon became part of our group of friends and i in particular bonding with him and for the last 4 years we have been best Friends, inseparable infact and we spend most of of or time together. he lives about ten minutes drive from me so makes evwerything easier.

From the first moment i seen him i fell deep in love with him. I never though that was possible and didn't believe in love at first site but when i seen him something happened. I remember it like it was yesterday. My face went hot, blood felt like it was boiling and i got this horrible feeling in my stomach. i was the happiest man alive at that moment. 4 years down the line, my feelings have got stronger and now im in a complete dark hole depressed and very emotional. my mum suffers from depression so i don't use the word lightly but i think i am. Oliver has completely turned my life upside down.

Olive is completely straight, i know he is. Hes a very complex person to get to know and many people tend not to like him because of certain things he does like never stays in contact with anyone, not really bothered about anything and ultimately is quite selfish. I can see through all of this knowing him so well and simon, i can say im the closest person to him.

Oliver knows im gay and is very protective about me, always defending me and constantly reassuringly me that being gay is ok and not an issue. He is a hairdresser so knows alot of gay men.

About a year after knowing him i told him in a very emotional way how i felt. we went out and i seen him kissing someone. I kept my cool but pretended i was to drunk and got a cab home. Later on Oliver turned up and got into my bed. He started to tell me about this girl and i stopped him and broke down. I know he wouldn't respond by saying he feels the same way but i had to tell him so he could understand the way i was acting. She had taken Oliver from me. it was unbearable and broke my heart. I decided the best way was to be up front. i told him and also said that i knew it wasn't fair on him and i would sort it out in my head and promise to never make an issue of it but he needed to be sensitive around it. I told him i would still be his best friend and always be there for him but couldn't hear about sexual encounters he had. What you don't know cant hurt you was my way of ignoring the fact Oliver wasn't mine.

Since then (about 3 years ago) i haven't told him again but im sure he knows. No one else knows my feeling and hes such a nice person he has not told anyone.

Im at a point now where i don't know what to do. Im lost and cant find a way to be happy again. He has a girlfriend who he doesn't wanna be with and chooses me over her all the time. Oliver sleeps in my bed 90 percent of the time and doesn't have shame in hugging me, telling me he loves me and being affectionate towards me. Im not silly though, i know all of this is because hes very comfortable with his sexuality and does love me, as a friend.

I need help now. I need to know the process of getting over someone. Ive ruined relationship after relationship as all i want is Oliver. I can imagine my life without him in it but friendship is not enough. Its so bad that even someone talking to him makes me wanna cry. Im really feed up.

I though that i would be able to convey my feelings by writing this but it doesn't do it any justice. Ive thought about counselling or completely blocking him out of my life but none of it seems sensible. After all, we are best friends and to not see him any more would not be fair on him and would raise alot of questions from everyone that knows us.

Im at a point know where in my head im starting to blame him for ruining my life. I would never say this to him though. 4 years ago i was happy, always smiling but now im just a mess. Everyone comments on it saying im not the same Nicholas they use to know and my family are worried about me as im never happy. The only time i can be happy is when im alone with Oliver.

I never though at this point in my life id be in such a state. I can't function properly, i can't do anything. Its not Oliver thought though. I chose to be friends with him knowing that my feelings were so strong but i cant help but wish i never met him because i cant keep hurting like this.

Without sounding big headed, im very popular and get alot of attention of both girls and boys and i remember when Oliver first met me hes exact words were: "You are the best looking guy i have ever met." In the begging of our friendship there was a common joke among our friends that Oliver fancied me as he was so over the top. Calling me all the time, wanting to spend every moment with me and always by my side. this is still the case but everyone just knows us to as best mates now so its normal. Anyone that meets me and him always comments on how strange our friendship is. They always think were an item and think were together but just not telling anyone. What hurts is we basically have a relationship just without sex. At night, Oliver hugs me so tight i cant breath sometimes. Obviously, this hurts me because that's all i want, me and him. so i lay there wanting him to get off me because in my head its like leading me on. I've tried making excuses so he doesn't sleep over so i don't have to lay there with my head in a mess and completely confused. Nothing is working, my situation is just getting worse.

Oliver is a very good looking man which makes it worse because alot of people show him attention or admit they fancy him. Even the site of Oliver talking to a girl infront of me makes me feel sick. At times i have been physical sick as it just got to much. Sometimes i can't eat, sleep, concentrate in work or even have the motivation or energy to speak to people. As soon as i see Oliver though, i transform and put a front on so he thinks nothing is wrong. There have been times where ive had to make an excuse and leave him when we have been just round his house or mine because i cant stand to look at him because it physical hurts.

Im a very strong independent person but when it comes to Oliver, i cant see past my feelings. im sitting here writing this in tears because i cant believe the state im in.

I dont want to lose him as a friend so am trying everything possible to avoid it but my health at risk so need to sort this situation out.

In your experience you must have come across this problem before. What advise do you give people. I cant live like this any more so i need to change it. Im not suicidal or anything like that. Like i said, im a strong person and ive been through alot, i just cant seem to get over Oliver.

I hope from this email you can make sense of it all. I know its very emotional email and i do feel very exposed and vulnerable as my biggest secret is out and ive been 100% honest but i know i need to get over him, i just cant on my own.

Please respond to this or put it on the site. any feedback at the moment will help me.

Thank you so much for your time.

Nicholas

Reply:

Hi Nicholas,

And sorry for taking a while to reply. I've been moving house.

I know it's tough, and you sound very deeply in love with Oliver, but in order to gain control of your life and start to feel happier, you have to get some distance between you; some space to sort your head out.

Don't make excuses for him not to sleep over - tell him he can't! If he's lying next to you every night and holding you, how on earth can you start to get your head straight? It would be just as hard if you had had a relationship with someone but were still sleeping together - it just doesn't work. You don't have to stop being friends with him, but you do absolutely need some space, and the privacy and peace of your own bed.

I don't think Oliver is gay, and perhaps not even bisexual. It's certain that even if he likes guys, it's a tiny part of him and not even big enough that he'd have a sexual relationship with his closest male friend. So there's no point waiting for him to decide he wants a relationship - I think you know that already.

He gets something from your hugs and intimacy, just like you do. In his case he perhaps feels safe, loved, and is in the company of someone who makes him feel attractive, wanted, desired etc. and these feelings are what keeps him coming back. Perhaps he finds it hard to back off from you, but because of different needs. In your case, you love his friendship and you love him, and you ache for more. You will always ache for more unless you break away a little bit. Sexual feelings alone are very powerful, and all your physical buttons are being pushed when you have your head on his chest at night, and I know from experience that this is bloody maddening! And then emotionally your head is completely filled with him, and you probably think of most things in your life via him in some way i.e. you think about your plans in terms of how it involves or affects him.

All the time you're stuck like this, you're missing out on guys who are gay and available, and can offer you what you want. It's natural to feel anger toward Oliver, but it's you who is the one in control and it's you who can start to grab some of the control of your life back.

So start today! Tell him that it's hard to have him in your bed and you need a little space. Spend time with other friends. Spend time doing something you enjoy that you've neglected. Think about the happy, carefree person you were 4 years ago and think about what's changed, and how you might get back to that happier time. Distract yourself: indulge an interest, do something new, call up a friend you haven't spoken to for a while, and see less of Oliver. When you do see him, try to do it outside of your home and your bedroom, so that intimacy is somewhat reduced.

Take control and get your life back. You are in control and can make changes.

Good luck!

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